Comments on: Australian attack bloggers and the Overton Window http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/ Thoughts of the Pollytics Community Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:58:48 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: In Case You Missed It - #1 — DanuPoyner.com http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-311 In Case You Missed It - #1 — DanuPoyner.com Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:38:32 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-311 [...] Crazy right-wing nuts hijack public debate [...] [...] Crazy right-wing nuts hijack public debate [...]

]]> By: jc http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-160 jc Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:33:13 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-160 <i>If you want to talk about “consistency” and principles taking second base to “personal peeves”, just ask yourself where you would normally stand on such issues. If you don’t think anybody in Australia should ever be allowed to criticise Israel, or note that prominent businessmen involved in 9-11 have Jewish backgrounds, then perhaps you should join the Labor Party.</i> That's right. The Jews did it. You fucking idiot Gandhi. Mark's right to give you the flick as he doesn't want to get sued for allowing crap like that. Where were all the Jews on 911? Well a few were sitting right at my desk in NYC and must have all been feigning surprise when the second plane went in. Damn actors. They all knew according to this genius. The Jewish guy a few rows from me? He must have been lying when he told us later that day his cousin died in the building. You're truly a pathetic, Gandhi and if you're going to make comments like that i suggest you do it on your blog under you own name so when the guy wants to sue the wrong doer he can come straight to you. If you want to talk about “consistency” and principles taking second base to “personal peeves”, just ask yourself where you would normally stand on such issues. If you don’t think anybody in Australia should ever be allowed to criticise Israel, or note that prominent businessmen involved in 9-11 have Jewish backgrounds, then perhaps you should join the Labor Party.

That’s right. The Jews did it. You fucking idiot Gandhi. Mark’s right to give you the flick as he doesn’t want to get sued for allowing crap like that.

Where were all the Jews on 911? Well a few were sitting right at my desk in NYC and must have all been feigning surprise when the second plane went in. Damn actors. They all knew according to this genius.

The Jewish guy a few rows from me? He must have been lying when he told us later that day his cousin died in the building.

You’re truly a pathetic, Gandhi and if you’re going to make comments like that i suggest you do it on your blog under you own name so when the guy wants to sue the wrong doer he can come straight to you.

]]> By: Mick http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-158 Mick Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:38:27 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-158 The free market media is biased against the left? Oh no, isnt that just a terrible story. You know what dictates the free market media? Market forces. You know who Joe blow on the street does and doesnt want to listen to? You all claim to be smart people. Connect the dots. The free market media is biased against the left? Oh no, isnt that just a terrible story. You know what dictates the free market media? Market forces. You know who Joe blow on the street does and doesnt want to listen to? You all claim to be smart people. Connect the dots.

]]> By: kcom http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-152 kcom Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:47:25 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-152 <blockquote><i>"But it’s become impossible for his editorials to maintain that line against the weight of global scientific and (finally) political opinion."</i></blockquote> Fortunately, the public at large aren't quite as credulous as "political opinion". href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jun/22/climatechange.carbonemissions">Poll: most Britons doubt cause of climate change</a> Common sense may yet win out. The Shakespeare line "The lady doth protest too much" comes to mind. People can recognize the difference between a balanced approach to a complex problem and a full court press bordering on obsession and insanity when they see it.

“But it’s become impossible for his editorials to maintain that line against the weight of global scientific and (finally) political opinion.”

Fortunately, the public at large aren’t quite as credulous as “political opinion”.

href=”http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jun/22/climatechange.carbonemissions”>Poll: most Britons doubt cause of climate change

Common sense may yet win out. The Shakespeare line “The lady doth protest too much” comes to mind. People can recognize the difference between a balanced approach to a complex problem and a full court press bordering on obsession and insanity when they see it.

]]> By: Just Me http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-151 Just Me Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:20:12 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-151 Dazzaaaaaaa Says: <i>Rudd is not left? Are you serious?</i> Rudd is left? Are <i>you</i> serious? Rudd is centrist by any vaguely rational standard. To try to portray him as left reveals far more about your viewpoint than anybody else's. By that standard you probably think most of the population are left. Dazzaaaaaaa Says:
Rudd is not left? Are you serious?

Rudd is left? Are you serious?

Rudd is centrist by any vaguely rational standard. To try to portray him as left reveals far more about your viewpoint than anybody else’s. By that standard you probably think most of the population are left.

]]> By: ooh honey honey http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-150 ooh honey honey Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:03:22 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-150 I checked this blog out because Tim linked to it. Bunch of people with not much remaining were the populist, broadbrush categories of "left" and "right" were confiscated from them, but when I got to this lame argumentum ad verecundiam: "...because I’m trying to get my PhD finished and I have a deadline." it put things into perspective. Prattle on, teenage wankers. I checked this blog out because Tim linked to it. Bunch of people with not much remaining were the populist, broadbrush categories of “left” and “right” were confiscated from them, but when I got to this lame argumentum ad verecundiam:
“…because I’m trying to get my PhD finished and I have a deadline.”
it put things into perspective.
Prattle on, teenage wankers.

]]> By: Dazzaaaaaaa http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-147 Dazzaaaaaaa Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:57:16 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-147 Rudd is not left? Are you serious? Reregulation of the labour market, apology to 'stolen' generation, that ridiculous Fuelwatch scheme, carbon trading, luxury car tax, telling those evil big banks not to raise interest rates independently (even though anyone with a bit of sense knows that money costs more because of subprime)...and that's just off the top of my head. The Age is mainstream? That's a joke, right? (No pun intended). Rudd is not left? Are you serious? Reregulation of the labour market, apology to ’stolen’ generation, that ridiculous Fuelwatch scheme, carbon trading, luxury car tax, telling those evil big banks not to raise interest rates independently (even though anyone with a bit of sense knows that money costs more because of subprime)…and that’s just off the top of my head.

The Age is mainstream? That’s a joke, right? (No pun intended).

]]> By: gandhi http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-145 gandhi Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:29:37 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-145 Actually, Daryl Mason #56, I hear that Murdoch still mutters under his breath (e.g. at Davos recently) that global warming is still a load of bollocks. But it's become impossible for his editorials to maintain that line against the weight of global scientific and (finally) political opinion. This <a href="http://bushout.blogspot.com/2006/09/sun-turns-green-or-should-i-say-rupert.html" rel="nofollow">September 2006 headline in The Sun</a> was just the beginning. At the time, I called it a "Murdoch double pike with twist" but it seems it may have been one of those rare occasions where a Newscrap editor makes a major independent decision. Or else the kids were involved, ie Lachlan or James. Murdoch steers the current, he doesn't swim against it. Actually, Daryl Mason #56, I hear that Murdoch still mutters under his breath (e.g. at Davos recently) that global warming is still a load of bollocks. But it’s become impossible for his editorials to maintain that line against the weight of global scientific and (finally) political opinion.

This September 2006 headline in The Sun was just the beginning. At the time, I called it a “Murdoch double pike with twist” but it seems it may have been one of those rare occasions where a Newscrap editor makes a major independent decision. Or else the kids were involved, ie Lachlan or James.

Murdoch steers the current, he doesn’t swim against it.

]]> By: Possum Comitatus http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-141 Possum Comitatus Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:54:01 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-141 Let's avoid thread entropy folks. Let’s avoid thread entropy folks.

]]> By: ARC http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/australian-attack-bloggers-and-the-overton-window/#comment-140 ARC Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:41:41 +0000 http://thepossumbox.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-140 <b>I guess it starts with basic respect and tolerance for differing opinions, something the political Right is notoriously bad at. Gandhi, you dipshit, don't be such a pathetic girly man. If your views don't stand up to scrutiny then people will tear parts of your flesh off. What you don't want is a free exchange of ideas where your opinions shouldn't be criticized. Fess up, you don't like getting called up for being an idiot. I guess it starts with basic respect and tolerance for differing opinions, something the political Right is notoriously bad at.

Gandhi, you dipshit, don’t be such a pathetic girly man. If your views don’t stand up to scrutiny then people will tear parts of your flesh off.

What you don’t want is a free exchange of ideas where your opinions shouldn’t be criticized. Fess up, you don’t like getting called up for being an idiot.

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